Thai ladies and safety issues in Thailand
It's one thing to lose your heart and/or your hard earned money, but sometimes you can lose your life, or else find yourself in big trouble, such as in jail or under threat or physically assaulted.
Most of the safety issues below are mainly in regard to Thai ladies of questionable moral standards, her male friends and associates who are rather rough and crude or hang out with reference groups of people like this, and gold-digger family pressures of many Thai ladies pushed into prostitution.
Other safety issues are directed at foreign men who tend to lose control of their emotions and/or not analyze and think thing thru before taking certain actions.
Some are crimes of passion, but most are calculated and premeditated offenses.
We've had murder case inquiries which were related to a life insurance policy in which the victim named his wife as the beneficiary of the life insurance policy. In one case, the wife conspired with her non-family associates. In another, it appeared a wife's family took the initiative. If you take out a life insurance policy, don't tell them.
Similar things have occurred to company shareholders. While rare in purely professional circles, the percentage is much higher as regards small holding companies based on personal relationships. You may want to write a Will which assigns your shares and property to someone else, and make this clear to all parties who may be tempted to do harm to you.
Then there are crimes of passion. In many cases, it is best to not confront the wife yourself in cases of infidelity because you or her or another paramour might lose control emotionally. In many cases, it is better for a neutral third party like a private investigator to find out and inform you when you are far away from harm's way.
For example, in the case of a Danish guy who snuck back to check if his wife was unfaithful and caught her: "Policemen got the murderers and one of them is Marisa's brother. He confessed that Jules was killed because he found out that his wife was unfaithful to him. Marisa's brother and the paramour (the government officer in Langsuan district, Chumporn) hurt Jules and then tied the rope to Jules' neck until he lost conciousness. After that they took unconcious Jules to his car and drove to the garbage site, and then used the concrete bar hit him until he died. Langsuan policemen arrested the guy (the paramour) while he was working in the office, he went pale when he saw the polices. But he refused everything. Jules's wife and 2 of her brother's friends is investigated now because the polices suspected that they're all involved. After the investigation, the polices found out that the murderers are Marisa's brother and her paramour. They commited the crime together. Marisa's brother said Mr. Anupong (the paramour) has been having secret relationship with Marisa for a long time. He always visited Marisa while Jules was away. Many years ago Anupong used to help him with the robbery case, and then they became friends. On Sunday, Jules told Marisa (and her brother was there also) that he was going to go to Phuket. But before that Jules suspected that his wife was unfaithful to him, so he came back and found out that Marisa was doing something with the guy (Anupong). Jules got so angry, so both Marisa's brother and Anupong hurt him." (www.julesodekerken.com/)
Besides murder, you can wind up badly beaten up.
Likewise, there are many foreigners in jail for murdering or seriously assaulting their girlfriends, often over matters such as infidelity or monetary fraud.
You can also wind up in jail for other reasons.
Foreigners have found themselves in jail because they were hanging out with a group of Thais who did drugs and had major possession on them in the presence of the foreigner.
Do your best to stay out of any situation in which you could become a victim of extortion. If you don't have good contacts in Thailand with key people who know you well, then be careful where you go and who you are with. Mafia people tend to continue to exist in places where they have corrupt police protection. Otherwise, they usually would have been shut down long ago. Money talks in Thailand, where many policemen have salaries in the $150/month range and must make up for it from their "community".
We also have a case of a guy who was breaking up with his mafia girlfriend (who I witnessed over the phone talking to him and controlling him like she had power over him and an immense ego), and at that moment she brought in a couple of policemen and showed them drugs he allegedly had hidden. He claimed to me that he knew nothing about the drugs, and he seemed sincere to me. He spent a little bit of time in jail awaiting a court hearing before being freed.
"Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned."
Actually, Thailand is a relatively peaceful and safe place, but the areas of prostitution have a lot of mafia, especially in the old Patpong area and around some of the Thai sex massage joints. (Nana Plaza and soi Cowboy are not nearly as bad.) Nonetheless, there is a significantly higher rate of robberies, drugs, gambling addicts, and extortion associated with prostitutes than mainstream Thai society.
We often have cases where a foreigner has been ripped off majorly, e.g., invested in a business with a Thai girlfriend (usually a bargirl or freelance prostitute) and she didn't do what she said she would do with the money, or embezzled the money out. We also have cases of fake property purchase documents and business registration -- faked government documents. Smaller things like receipts for purchases of goods, English class receipts, apartment rental leases, etc., and not uncommon. These things can be discreetly verified in most cases, and confrontation avoided.
If you find out you've been ripped off, what's the use of an emotional confrontation? An instantaneous release of anger? In the long term, it is better to keep your cool and collect further evidence of the "fraud", and then take the subject to court so that maybe you can get some or all of it back, or else pursue some other strategy in the community to deal with the matter.
In any case, violence should be avoided at all costs, and a more mindful approach chosen.
Sample case studies of Thai girlfriends:
- Hotel employee, fake student, delayed money requests, terrible deception, Bangkok
- Bargirl, success story, mixed but faithful, Bangkok
- Bargirl, Pattaya, with monthly support but repeated urgent pressures for extra money
- Quick entrapment
- Denial -- sometimes the immediate reaction
- For foreign wife, find out if husband has a Thai girlfriend -- IF
- For foreign wife or man's family, find out about husband's Thai girlfriend -- ABOUT
- Composite issues
- Safety issues
- A customer's article on another website about our investigation, on Stickman Bangkok (we knew nothing of this article until after it was online and have had absolutely no editorial inputs to it)
Introducing your optional expat PI - Mark
It is important to employ the right person for the job, not necessarily someone who just happens to be available, such as your friend or someone who just needs work. For good results and discretion, hire a professional.
To get the right person for the job, please send a message to our "inbox" (not "info") at
Alternatively, you can just use our contact form
Either way, we will usually respond within 1 to 24 hours.
All text content on our site is proudly original and copyright © 1997-2008, All Rights Reserved.
We do not tolerate copycats, and we are honorable people with class. Please remember thaiLANDpi.com
Thailand Private Investigations,
c/o Lucky Lion Pride Co., Ltd.
Ploymitr Building, Floor 7
81 Sukhumvit soi 2
Tel dialed internationally: +66-8-0062-4243 (English speaking mobile)
Tel dialed domestically: 08-0062-4243 (English speaking mobile)
Please note: We have moved our office from Pakkred, Nonthaburi, to the city center within walking distance of the Sukhumvit BTS skytrain line.